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Post by CertainUncertainty on Mar 8, 2015 3:23:00 GMT -6
I thought I'd go ahead and start a thread - I feel a classic bout of bullshit coming on. -___- Like really. I hate when something good hits me and I write it out (if I can) and then when I have to go back over it all, fill in the details, the characters just sit there like "Well, what do we do now?"
*flips a table and kicks a chair*
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Post by SaintsRow4Ever on Mar 8, 2015 9:46:46 GMT -6
I always get a good idea, get excited, and then I try write it and my mind goes blank. Starting is always the hardest part for me. I have the same problem as you- I'm always lost after I finish filling everything in.
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Post by Sierra Peyton Refit on Mar 9, 2015 13:44:27 GMT -6
I've taken to writing down unplanned out writing prompts to start ideas, and the first one I used took me a week to complete but it spawned a 4k monster, so it's helped me, might work for others as well. What I mean is starting a basic idea on paper and expanding it later.
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Post by CertainUncertainty on Oct 26, 2015 12:13:50 GMT -6
And I get so overwhelmed till it's hard to tell
what I'm thinking...
CU: Hi, Ji.Jiyong: Hey.CU: *deep sigh* I'm so nervous.Ji: LOL~ You? I've never done this before either. CU: *covers face, grinning* I've done this before, plenty of times. It's just...been a while.Ji: Why? Isn't this something you love doing?CU: Yeah but.... *looks away* I kinda lost my way. I'm just now getting back on track.Ji: *grins* That's good!CU: I want to tell your side of the story, Ji. I just can't get into your head. Ji: Yeah, it's a bit chaotic up here, to be honest.CU: So...then how do I do it?Ji: CU: .......................DAMMIT. T~T This isn't working.Ji: Be patient with me. I'm not trying to make it hard.CU: *takes a deep breath* Why can't I do it?Ji: Maybe...I want your full attention. No distractions or anything. Focus on me only. Can you do that for me, right now?CU: Okay, one second.... Let me tell my best friend good night.Ji: Tell her good night for me, too. CU: *blushes* Okay. There. I'm all yours.Ji: *wide, bright smile*CU: O//////////O Holy shit.Ji: See? I can't be my true self with others around. *blushes, hiding behind his hand*CU: *blinks, captivated* Uh.... W-why not?Ji: People look at me and immediately form an opinion of me. Oh, he's too girly. Oh, he tries too hard to be this or be that. Oh, he's so this or that. I'm often judged just by appearances alone. I've learned that you can learn a lot by simply watching others.CU: *tilts head* What have you learned about the people who judge you?Ji: *looks down at his hands, fumbling with the scarf around his wrist* They're afraid of me.CU: *frowns, shocked* Afraid? Why are they afraid?Ji: I don't mind being different. I don't try to fit into society's mold, into the stereotypes that are associated with being a celebrity, an Asian, a guy. I be who I want to be, and it scares them. What if everyone thinks like me? What if everyone decided to ignore the rules we govern ourselves with and just tried to be whatever makes them happiest?CU: *nods with understanding*Ji: If I want to dress up as a woman, why can't I? If I want to put on make up and a wig and prance around for laughs, why is that wrong? Why must there be something wrong with me? Why do I have to be gay or bisexual? I'm tired of living life according to someone else's rules and being looked down when I disregard them.CU: I understand. Even if you did try to follow one person's rules, you're bound the break the rules of another and have to endure their criticism and ridicule.Ji: Exactly! *claps his hands and leans forward, elbows on his knees* There's no point.CU: *thinks about it* So then, am I writing the wrong story for you? I mean, in it, you actually do care a great deal about what others say.Ji: *expression changes, gets sad* I personally don't care what people say or think - I mean, the requests for suicide were pretty bad but I eventually got over that with the help of the guys. But, as far as the women I fall in love with - they're not me. They haven't walked as far as I have in my shoes. They aren't used to the constant negativity that I've gotten used to. I don't worry about me, but them. If it once got me down to the point where I did consider their suggestions, what are they thinking, feeling, wanting to do? I don't want someone else to hurt themselves because they were with me.CU: So then, you're not depressed?Ji: *bites his bottom lip, plays with his fingers* I didn't say that.CU: *leans forward* Then what are you saying?Ji: I can deal with it all - the good and the bad. I just can't...deal with it alone sometimes. Sometimes, you simply want a hand to hold, arms to lose yourself in. Something or someone to make it all worth enduring. Sometimes, being a celebrity is just so... lonely. I've seen so many celebrities with their significant others who seem so happy, with children and stuff - I want that. I want someone who'll always be there, start a family with me, so I'll never be alone again.CU: *sad smile* I think I'm starting to... get you.Ji: *smiles too* Yeah, me too. I think you could be right -- feeling lonely can leave you feeling really depressed, especially when you're constantly surrounded by people.CU: *fights tears* Okay! So, should we change topics, or....?Ji: *gets up and moves to sit on the couch too* We can if you want. I feel pretty comfortable that you understand what I'm trying to say.CU: Okay, so... I want to write this one shot with you.... How do I get into your head?Ji: >.> You stop chatting with other people when I'm trying to talk to you. It's rude. Give me your full attention.CU: *blushes and looks down, ashamed* I find it hard to ignore people when they ask a question.Ji: So? I was talking first. He can wait for a little bit.CU: *laughs* Omigawd, I'm sorry.Ji: *waits, impatiently* CU: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.Ji: You were saying? Continue.CU: I want to write this one shot where you console this girl during a thunderstorm.Ji: Who is she? A random stranger, Sunni, you, or your friend?CU: *thinks about it* I don't know....Ji: Because, while I'd console the person no matter what, the intimacy and affection level would be different.CU: Your English is pretty proper and formal.Ji: *blushes, laughing* Well, yes. I'm fluent in English, but some of the slang and terminology is lost.CU: So you can speak English, but you wouldn't sound American?Ji: Exactly. I can keep up with Sunni in a conversation, but some things would be misunderstood. It helps to say what you mean and not use slang.CU: Ah, okay. *slaps head playfully* Duh. But.... I think I'd want it to be Sunni. I want to get used to how you react with her.Ji: Well, won't that be hard, considering that our relationship changes throughout the story? I mean, the way we treat each other is vastly different as the story goes on. If I were to try to console Sunni at the beginning, she'd brush me off coldly because she's mad at me. If I tried it after we'd had sex a few times, she'd readily accept it.CU: True - so timing is everything with you?Ji: Yes. Life is like dancing - you have to pay attention or you'll miss your opening and be off beat.CU: I can't do this, Ji. I can't write from your POV.Ji: *hugs* You can. You're afraid of messing up - which is okay - but it doesn't have to be perfect. I'm only human - I make mistakes all the time. For me, the most important part is how you recover - do you stop and spend time dwelling on the fact that you messed up? Or do you try to keep going? There's no sense in stopping - the show must go on. When I perform and I make a mistake, I have to keep going. That's why you practice, practice, practice. Why we rehearse and practice as much as we can. You have everything ready, you just need to practice and rehearse the lines.CU: So then, in this scene, you and Sunni are past the initial dislike/distrust phase, but not yet intimate. Though, you're considering it and she's just now coming around to the idea of being intimate with you.Ji: *grins widely and kisses my cheek* I think you're ready to give it a try.CU: .......Thank you, Ji. <3 Song: The Only Exception - Paramore
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Post by CertainUncertainty on Oct 26, 2015 15:04:02 GMT -6
Writing Process 1. For Crooked Smile, the most important step (aside from convincing myself to write what I want to read) was making sure I truly loved the object of my obsession. I'm very much into G-Dragon and Big Bang; my day seems a bit brighter every time I look at him. I spent a ton of time watching and reading interviews, and looking at his pictures getting a feel for him and his range of emotions. From here, I completed character sketches for him and his romantic interest, Sunni. 2. Brainstorm (or even just write) the scenes I'd want to read, keeping in mind that this story is for me and no one else. Without the fear of criticism to cripple me, I'm able to dream and create without inhibitions. I may share the story later with others, but I won't put too much weight on what they think or want. 3. Going off of the candy bar scenes I've created so far, I should have a general direction of the plot. I want to address G-Dragon's signs of depression. His character arc reflects the struggle to acknowledge and admit to being depressed - this will be the backbone of the main story line. His romantic interest, Sunni, has struggled with depression before, but conquered it and is now dealing with commitment issues, which will be the back bone of the romantic subplot. 4. I expand their character arcs with signs of depression and commitment issues then I fill out basic story structure points (Tameri Guide, Save the Cat) and use other movie/books for reference (like, I read an article on the structure of the Disney movie Tangled and used it to make the plot points of my romance subplot). 5. Finally, I put everything on notecards (character traits, plot points, random events) to create my scenes and put them into chronological order. This part takes the longest because the sheer number of cards - I have to combine some of them to create complex scenes that pull double duty, doing things like revealing a character secret, move the story forward and foreshadow something that happens later on. It helps to separate the cards by Act (1-3) then separate the stack again (beginning, middle, end). Act Two, being the largest stack, actually got three parts that each were separated into beginning, middle, and end. Tedious, yet effective. 6. I type it all up (or write them down). I use StoryBox 2 which has a note card function built in! I simply created scenes within the Act and put my notes from the card onto that scene. Once every card is filled out and arranged the way I want, I export the synopsis of the scenes and printed it out! Voila, easy outline! 7. Currently, I'm going over the outline over and over again, adding things like more character traits, mirroring early actions to later more important ones, and inserting more scenes to fix the pacing issue of the romance. In between breaks, I try writing little "in the eyes of..." scenes to get used to writing from my main characters' (G-Dragon and Sunni) point of view.
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Post by CertainUncertainty on Oct 28, 2015 16:43:03 GMT -6
Pics of my outline revision process:
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Post by CertainUncertainty on Oct 31, 2015 13:34:19 GMT -6
Here's a snapshot of my writing process so far. I'm ready for NaNo, using StoryBox 2. My story is set up by Act, with the scenes each in their right (hopefully final!) place. Each notecard has a blank document attached so that I can click it and start writing! The words in the boxes (notecards) are the synopsis of that scene so I have an idea beforehand what should happen. I may not stick to the synopsis, so there's no pressure to be perfect. On top of that, if I find that I can't write that scene, I can skip it! I have roughly 80 scenes, so every day I will shoot for at least one scene but not do more than three. The key to this is having fun and enjoying the ride.
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Post by CertainUncertainty on Oct 31, 2015 18:24:08 GMT -6
Baby I just want you back I want you back I want you back Baby I know it’s too late it just too late it’s just too late CU: OMIGAWD I'M SO EXCITED!Ji: *laughs* I'm glad you are. It makes me excited too. CU: I wanna start right now? Is that bad?Ji: No, not really. *smiles brightly* To be honest, I'm surprised you haven't. The goal is to write everyday, right?
CU: Yeah. *nods, squeaks happily*Ji: Then why not go ahead and write something? *shrugs* No one would fault you for it.
CU: Because I need to learn patience. I often rush into things without thinking it through, you know? Like, if I write that one scene right now, what if I'm not able to write when I need to later?Ji: Why wouldn't you be able to write? I mean, you're really psyched right now.
CU: *stares, blinks* ........... *pouts* I dunno.
Ji: See? I think that's what impatience and indecisiveness looks like when mixed together. *laughs*
CU: >////> I'm glad I amuse you, Jiyong.
Ji: ^____^ What's really on your mind?
CU: ....*looks down at her fingers, biting her bottom lip* I'm a bit nervous. I don't know if I'm actually scared, but I'm definitely nervous.
Ji: That's normal. It's no different than performing on stage - stage fright. *smiles tenderly and holds her hand* There's absolutely nothing to be afraid of. This isn't about being perfect, doing things right on the first try. It's about you getting comfortable with writing again! That's all I care about, to be honest. The story itself is awesome - very romantic, with funny parts. The cast is colorful, with a wide variety of personalities. Any issues you have should be noted and dealt with after November. *squeezes her hand* You're eager to write, but afraid to mess up. You do not have to be perfect.
CU: *blushes* Thank you, Ji. It feels weird to have you give me a pep talk.
Ji: *blushes, hiding his face behind his hand* It felt weird giving it! But... I really want you to write - and finish! You're so full of wonderful and unique ideas, and the only thing stopping you from getting them all out is you. CU: *gets sad* I hear that so much... Sometimes I really feel bad about it. Ji: *pulls her into a hug, presses his lips to her temple* You're also used to being alone when you write. It'll take time to adjust to and come to believe the good things people tell you. You're not alone anymore. So, you don't have to stand in your own way anymore.
CU: O___O *light bulb moment* Ji: *leans away* That look is a bit scary. Are you okay?
CU: *nods excitedly* I can do this. Just like with Free Falling and every other story I've ever written and finished - I can do this! I've done it before, a-and I'll do it again! And again, and again, and again... Because I can. Ji: *gives her his best and brightest smile* That's my girl...
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Post by CertainUncertainty on Nov 3, 2015 11:06:26 GMT -6
Ji, you're doing it again. Me? What about you? You're all over the place. Okay, well dammit - help me T~TRelax, for me.*sighs, takes a deep breath* Okay, now what? You're not relaxing. You're stressing out and getting upset.T~T I'm trying! I really am. I just.... I'm not getting you. Okay, focus on me. Put your entire being into concentrating on me. You've seen my videos, seen me in interviews - have you ever imagined what it'd be like to sit next to me?Does this count? No. Then no.Tell me how you think I'd act with you.*laughs, smiles* OMG *smiles* You'd be very polite and shy until you got to know me and were comfortable, used to being around me. Then you'd act a little bit like you do when you're with the guys slowly showing more and more of the real you. And once I realized I loved you?You'd be romantic and lovey dovey, doting on and spoiling me rotten. You'd be very attached, and faithful, because you'd want it to last forever. Okay, good. See how we're talking now? Honest, open, sincere. I know but this has nothing to do with the opening scene! Yes it does. I do everything in the same way - I'm consistently honest, open, sincere, and polite. I may get a bit cocky and flirty on stage, but that's still me. You're just nervous.Then why don't you write the first scene T~T .......okay. o.o What? I'll write the opening scene for you. And you let Sunni do her scenes. Um, okay.
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Post by CertainUncertainty on Dec 3, 2015 3:25:06 GMT -6
Manic Pixie Dream People As much as I love this trope, sadly it's frowned upon by many. When done right, it uplifts my spirits since I do strongly identify with many of the characteristics of this trope. But when it's done wrong, it makes me feel bad about myself. Stupid. Foolish. True story.
The concept I'm working out in my head is that a MPDG is forced to face the best and worst of her characteristics in a cyborg modeled after her own personality. Basically, I want to play with the inverse of the Opposites Attract trope by seeing if two characters who are just alike can fall in love and stay together. Can they find and keep their happy ever after? To quote TV Tropes:
By definition, one would assume that she'd depend on someone completely unlike herself to get through life and be a productive member of society. To be honest, I know I do - I often get so lost in my own imagination that I do neglect my responsibilities or end up in situations because of my overwhelming idealistic nature. And I know first hand how incredibly hard it is to be in a relationship with a guy who is as idealistic as I am.
So in my third book of the series, I plan for the female lead to try to convince her male counterpart to stay in a relationship with her. The details are muddy. I dunno, but while I was planning, he hit me with a rant that I wanted to put somewhere safe with what was going through my mind when he said it. Things are fine between him and her until he catches wind of why he was created - it boils down to a bet made between her, her sister, and a friend. Needless to say, he's not happy about it. It's what he says, and how he says it, that made my heart skip a beat and my eyes water. Or it could be that my sinus is messed up.
This nearly made me abandon the idea of the entire series. But somehow I feel like the world needs these stories...
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Post by MDGeistMD02 on Dec 3, 2015 3:44:32 GMT -6
Maybe I'm reading too much into this... or perhaps not enough.
What is it exactly you are going for here? She makes a cyborg (male) based off her own personality as a bet?
Sorry to be clueless here.
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Post by CertainUncertainty on Dec 3, 2015 4:53:28 GMT -6
No worries. The idea was formed from combining a few ideas like Absolute Boyfriend, The Vision as presented in Age of Ultron (spoiler alert), and a few other works. The concept for this particular story is still being ironed out so I don't expect it to be a solid plot just yet, but as it stands, the main character is dumped by another guy. It's pretty much exactly the same scenario as in this video. Her sister and best friend are upset to see her heartbroken again, but are convinced that if she would simply change (mature) then she could avoid it. However, the main character is adamant that she shouldn't have to change. So to settle this debate, they order a boyfriend who's nearly the exact same as she is, and challenge her to stay with him so she can see what she puts others through and feel the way they do. I admit its a little weak, but deep down this idea makes my heart sing -- could you fall for, and stay in love with, yourself? If so, what's the one trait you have that helps keep you together? If not, what's the one trait that ruins everything?
The ultimate goal is to get people to think about what they're putting into a relationship - their good and bad traits - and seeing themselves in the eyes of someone who attempts to love them.
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Post by CertainUncertainty on Mar 5, 2016 4:14:44 GMT -6
Hello there, Camp NaNo...
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Post by CertainUncertainty on Mar 7, 2016 18:36:25 GMT -6
Annnnnnd I'm back! I don't think anyone checks the forum posts anymore, so I'm hiding my nugget here. If you do so happen to see it, you're welcome to post comments, questions, and other bits.
With Saints Row, I've been researching/exploring what logically would have come next in the franchise after SRTT. Yeah, we were saddled with aliens, but after doing some digging, I learned that Ultor was supposed to be the same company that's used in Red Faction. However, when THQ went bankrupt, Red Faction was sold to a different company than Volition, so the link was severed between the two games. Given Volition's quirky sense of humor, it would make sense to simply destroy Earth rather than try to undo all of the setup they've done since the first Saints Row game. Lazy but they were short on funds. So, what if Volition had continued with their plot? Well, since Hughes in the first game, there's always been a plan to rebuild Stilwater into the ideal paradise. The goal of the true antagonist of each game is to have the gangs fight among each other to thin their numbers, then send a private military to round up and dispose of the winner.
At the moment, the events of my universe are like this. (WARNING, RAMBLING AHEAD):
-- The Saints start off as vigilantes, determined to protect Saints Row from the gang war. The police don't provide much help and Hughes gets the Saints to take out the one person who is a threat to his plan to relocate the lower class citizens. While Ultor builds its reputation and gathers more investors, they go to the last gang standing, and offers the leader and main lieutenant "a way out", manipulating them into destroying the gang.
-- In Saints Row 2, three new gangs surface under the careful supervision of Ultor, now a mega corporation. Ultor needed to prove that violence isn't something that cures itself but allowing criminals worse than the gangs before them to terrorize the city. However, the Samedi, Ronin, and Brotherhood weren't enough. Ultor - Vogel - kept an eye on the Saint who'd been left in a coma. I'm not yet sure how well Vogel orchestrated the whole thing, but Carlos being able to get into prison around the same time the Boss comes out of the coma and get him off of the island is freaking incredible considering how hard it was for him to dig up information on the Brotherhood. Ultor secretly fuels the battle for Stilwater, letting the new Boss of the Saints demonstrate why Stilwater needs to change. Vogel's mistake was believing the Saints could be taken out as easily as the first time. Gryphon and Dex gun for Vogel's position leading Gryphon to go to the Saints, using them to take out his competition as he tells the Saints that Dex is the bad guy - in truth, there is no "good guy". Hearing that the Saints are helping Gryphon, Dex sets up the Boss to meet Julius after revealing the truth of the yacht bombing, hoping that his rage will be enough to distract him long enough to let the Ultor's military force to kill the new Boss (Dex was the Head of Security at the time). When that failed, he transferred to a new branch out of town. With his plan accomplished, Gryphon takes over Ultor and offers a truce to the Saints, creating the Saints-Ultor Media Corp.
--At the beginning of SRTT, the Saints are now tamed guard dogs. They're allowed to do as they wish, but within reason and rules - thus the less serious, more silly antics. Trouble comes when Ultor attempts to deal under the table with the Syndicate, with hopes that the bigger, more powerful company will take care of their Saints problem by arranging for them to purchase the bank in Stilwater. This leads to territory protective Saints to show the newcomers who's boss, leading to the events and ending of SRTT... With the Saints concentrated in Steelport, the Syndicate move into Stilwater, into Ultor's open arms. Once the Saints claim Steelport, they prepare to go home, only to realize that it's no longer theirs. The Syndicate has multiplied and thrived with Ultor's help, creating the home of their American base of operations. With new tech, Ultor and the Syndicate build an indestructible shield around Stilwater and rename the city inside of its borders St. Claire. The citizens not chosen/approved to live within the city rebuild around the borders, thus expanding the Stilwater we've come to know while connecting it with Steelport. They also create areas in between to leave the new map as massive as Los Santos in GTA V. (Yeah, I'll end up doing a map to share and show others.) At the moment, I dunno if I want the syndicate set up the same way (Morningstar, Luchadores, Deckers) as Killbane is the only gang leader left. I do know that Loren is alive (cloning technology insures he never has to put himself in direct danger) and that Ultor could replace the Deckers. The sequel I plan to write in April - Broken - will cover the events after SRTT, with the Saints discovering they've only scratched the surface of the Syndicate then proceeding to finish destroying them and that Ultor has betrayed them.
--The final sequel will be the Saints directly taking down Ultor and reclaiming Stilwater, this time keeping in mind their original purpose.
Whew! If you're still reading, omfg give yourself a hug or a cookie or something. You're awesome! I ended up info dumping but it helped sort my thoughts and fill in some details. It looks and sounds like some serious/not funny stuff, but I do plan to stick with the humor and parody I loved in SR2 and SRTT. So far, my list includes The Walking Dead, iRobot, Robocop, Resident Evil (Umbrella Corp? Too easy.), Serenity, Guardians of the Galaxy, Warm Bodies (romance and zombies?), Wall E, and the recent games in the COD franchise, from Black Ops 2 through Blacks Ops 3. I dunno if I'm rude enough to slap readers with a Terminator plot twist yet.
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Post by MDGeistMD02 on Mar 8, 2016 1:30:39 GMT -6
Nice post, and nice plotline! My own headcanon differs from that somewhat, but I do love your ideas! Thanks for sharing, and I look forward to seeing/reading more. And how would I not see this? I'm the guy who constantly messes around with his own threads here.
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